I think I have just seen a Coypu in a dew pond in the woods
  • Walking my dog along the sea wall today we walked into the woods and on the left behind the brambles and bushes is a big dew pond. I happened to glance over at the pond and could not believe my eyes. I saw a huge animal which looked like a beaver with large front teeth staring up at me. Now I have a small dog who weighs approx 6kg this animal was a lot bigger than my dog . I was a little nervous as I did not want my dog to notice it and give chase. So I rushed home to tell my other half that I had just seen a Beaver, he said no that they're extinct in this country and that what I had probably seen was a coypu.

    Has anyone else seen this animal ?

  • Handsome looking fellas. If they are going to breed anywhere, around this area would seem ideal.
  • I saw something like this a couple of months ago.  It crossed my path as I cycled along the trail - moving from one wooded area to another.  I couldn't really figure out the size, and I didn't notice much of a tail.  I tried looking up what it might have been.  Water vole seemed to be the best match, but I thought it was too big for that - hadn't considered a coypu as I didn't think they were in the UK anymore, maybe a muskrat?
  • Back in April of this year Vicks reported (on the Birds of Wivenhoe thread):
    "Is this the right place to ask about small mammals? In the burn
    alongside the woodland cycle path I today saw 2 lovely little water
    voles and something a bit bigger that looked like a beaver - I've just
    moved down from NW Highlands in Scotland so not familiar with what you
    have down here - but I wasn't expecting a beaver."

    At the time I replied:
    "Vicks - your water vole spotting I'm sure is accurate. I've spotted them
    out and about again in the Ferry Marsh area now that spring is here....I can't think you saw a beaver
    though! Just possible it was an otter. They are around here but very
    elusive. You will have been  lucky to have seen it if it was. Darren
    Tansley of the Essex Wildlife Trust has reported seeing otter tracks
    around here, the clearest ones being underneath the pedestrian rail
    bridge crossing up at the Hythe."

    There has been an inconclusive sighting of a coypu in Worcester in recent times (see this Natural England link)
    http://www.naturalengland.org.uk/Images/exotics-stats_tcm6-4154.pdf

    Trappers found and dealt with the last breeding group of coypus near St Neots in April 1987
    and according to DEFRA the species is now classed as "exterminated" in England
    https://secure.fera.defra.gov.uk/nonnativespecies/factsheet/factsheet.cfm?speciesId=2282


    I think this is one for the experts, over to you Chris Gibson or Darren Tansley!
  • Coypu are extinct in England after at least two waves of extensive trapping which occured in the 1960s then the 1970s-1980s. Over 70,000 coypu were trapped in East Anglia, the main stronghold, and they were declared officially extinct at the end of the 1980s (although a few individuals were still knocking about in the early 1990s.) They were farmed through the 1930s and early 1940s for fur but escaped quite readily (along with mink who were also in these farms) and by the 1950s both species were established in the wild.


    I do get called out to sightings of coypu a couple of times a year but as these animals were the size of a small dog and their burrows and feeding signs absolutely enormous there is no chance they could escape notice in a pond or river. The sightings always end up being extremely large brown rats. However even brown rats wouldn't be the size you describe. Could you have seen a muntjac deer crouching down for a drink? This would be brown, large but nowhere near as large as a Roe Deer or Fallow Deer, have prominent 'tusks' and is very likely to be found in the habitat you suggest. I can't think what else you could have seen.


    On the subject of Muskrats, these are not a UK species, being Native to north America, and are approximately the size of water voles with similar habits and ecology. They are the main prey item of American Mink which is why mink are so adept at hunting water voles.

  • Much as I hate to link to The Sun - they seem to be kicking off their silly season with a series of fearmongering "Giant Rat" stories.

    http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/3104027/Gnaws-II-Giant-rat-caught-in-Lincoln.html

    http://news.sky.com/story/800483/monster-rat-shot-dead-on-housing-estate

    Otherwise could it be an escaped exotic animal? There have been a few sightings of escaped prairie dogs in the UK in recent years?
  • Hi Darren, am really sure it was not a deer. It had extremely large front teeth, that's why I was so convinced I had seen a beaver. I have never seen an animal like this, the only thing close would be a rat; but if this is a rat, then i'm leaving Essex. It was enormous! bigger than my dog who is about 6kg.

    Just to clarify, it was in the woods that begin as you walk towards Arlesford, past the sailing club. About 20m in there is a dew pond on the lefthandside, which is overgrown with brambles and hedging. I heard a rustling and looked to see something, no more than 5m away, down on top of what looked like pile of branches in the water. The animal looked straight at me, it was brown with a longish coat. It was at this point I turned around and went.

  • Perhaps this mysterious creature is also responsible for this other local mystery.


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  • This animal must be the Beast of Wivenhoe. I saw it earlier in the year, near that spot feeding on the remains of an unfortunate passer by. I didn't mention it at the time as I thought that I would not be believed - but at last the secret is out.
  • But how do you distinguish between that and the dreaded 'Elmstead Market Creature'??!

  • From what I remember the Elmstead creature was quite a HOWLER... ;)
  • I rather like the original theory that we have a beaver here in the 'hoe.
  • you lot are a bunch of jokers :) especially you simon lol
  • Thank you Citygirl. It's nice to know my efforts here are appreciated ;-)

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